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to avoid the fiscal clip. it is the fault of congress. they created this fiscal cliff. they did it. no one else imposed this on them. >> the president has never gone to the nation and made a serious speech about dt. he ignored it the first two years. he appoints a commission that he studiously ignores for the next two years. that is why we are at the clip now. he is not serious about the debt. none of his proposals to raise taxes on the rich. he has never put any political capital in entitlement reform our tax reform. he'll talk about it here and there. never invested any capital in it. >> any difference of opinion? >> if it is such a trivial amount, the raising of taxes on the wealthy, then why the squealing, the yelling, the hurt feelings of all this plutocrats? my goodness gracious. i will say this -- right now, he is absolutely right. all the political advantage is with the president, but if this thing comes to a complete halt and falls, then there would be political blame across the board, and it will und
to avoid the fiscal clip. it is the fault of congress. they created this fiscal cliff. they did it. no one else imposed this on them. >> the president has never gone to the nation and made a serious speech about dt. he ignored it the first two years. he appoints a commission that he studiously ignores for the next two years. that is why we are at the clip now. he is not serious about the debt. none of his proposals to raise taxes on the rich. he has never put any political capital in...
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cliff. it is congress's fault. congress created this fiscal cliff. no one else to impose this on them. it is a self-imposed problem. >> the problem is that the president has never ge to the nation and made a serus speech about debt. he ignored it the first two years. he appoints aommission that he studiously ignores for the nextt two years. that is why we are at the fiscal cliff now. he is not serious about that. none of his proposals the raise taxes on the ridge. it is 8 cents on the dollar. it is a trivial amount money, and he has never put any political capital in entitlemement reform. you talk aut it here or there. never invested in the capital in it. >> i think we have a difference of opinion here. >> if it is such a trivial amount, then why the squealing the yelli, the hurt feelings? all of these plutocrats, my goodness gracious. i will say this -- right now, he is absolutely right. all the political advantage is with the president but if this ththing comes to a complete hal and falls,
cliff. it is congress's fault. congress created this fiscal cliff. no one else to impose this on them. it is a self-imposed problem. >> the problem is that the president has never ge to the nation and made a serus speech about debt. he ignored it the first two years. he appoints aommission that he studiously ignores for the nextt two years. that is why we are at the fiscal cliff now. he is not serious about that. none of his proposals the raise taxes on the ridge. it is 8 cents on the...
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will receive the blame if the united states goes over the fiscal cliff because they want this bill amended? >> i watch your network a lot and republicans get the blame if it's sunny outside. i'm not really worried about that. you know, people will make their own judgments. but the people that i represent and i come from a swing district says this is a problem. people should pay their fair share. but we've got to do something about spending. >> okay. that was ohio republican steven latourette speaking earlier today. first of all we heard from the senate floor, senate majority leader harry reid say he was talking about waiting games and tired staffers. he then adjourned the senate until tomorrow. again, the question out there is if the house does amend that bill they received today and send it back to the senate, will the senate take it up or not? we're also hearing this according to our political director chuck todd. he says from a house gop leadership aide right now what the speaker is doing in this gop conference is proposing a two-bill strategy. i'll read exactly what the note says here.
will receive the blame if the united states goes over the fiscal cliff because they want this bill amended? >> i watch your network a lot and republicans get the blame if it's sunny outside. i'm not really worried about that. you know, people will make their own judgments. but the people that i represent and i come from a swing district says this is a problem. people should pay their fair share. but we've got to do something about spending. >> okay. that was ohio republican steven...
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we crossed the river into virginia and the fact that the fiscal cliff deal is still not done comes to no surprise from everyone you're about to hear from. we traveled to the north side social in arlington with one goal. we asked people for one word to describe congress. >> one word -- >> you guessed it, nonare flattering. >> dysfunctional. >> stubborn. >> silly. >> watching the 112th congress bicker its way through negotiationings leaves people lime tom disappointed. >> i'm adisappointed. >> people like katherine apathetic. >> it seems like a cycle of nonsense. >> it has gotten worse. >> he's right. this congress will go down as the least productive on record. the bottom line is that members are not putting country first. >> now it is so bipartisan and they are used to beating the other guy. >> which brings us to the next congress and the next fight acoss cross the board spending cuts and the fiscal cliff negotiations delayed for two months. the idea that battle will be different than this one seems -- >> i would like it to. >> laughable. she makes a point that a lot of people make du
we crossed the river into virginia and the fact that the fiscal cliff deal is still not done comes to no surprise from everyone you're about to hear from. we traveled to the north side social in arlington with one goal. we asked people for one word to describe congress. >> one word -- >> you guessed it, nonare flattering. >> dysfunctional. >> stubborn. >> silly. >> watching the 112th congress bicker its way through negotiationings leaves people lime tom...
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lawmakers are trying to get a deal done before the end of the year to avoid a fiscal cliff. congress is not expected to return to work until thursday. the same goes for president obama who will spend christmas in hawaii. that leaves them just five days to get a deal done to avoid steep tax hikes and spending cuts. senators on both sides of the aisle say both parties need to compromise to avoid a potential econom disaster. >> my one bit of advice to speaker boehner is this. you can't pass a bill with just republicans. on a broad thing like this, you need both. >> ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want, that's a good day. we have the same objective of lower taxes. i like simpson-bowles. put money on the debt. tax rate hikes are partisan solution driven by the president but he'll get tax rate hikes. >> some lawmakers say that no deal will get done by the end of the year. >>> the second victim of a shooting in northeast washington has died. beasley was found shot in the early hours of saturday morning. harris was found lying in the road nearby and pronounced dead
lawmakers are trying to get a deal done before the end of the year to avoid a fiscal cliff. congress is not expected to return to work until thursday. the same goes for president obama who will spend christmas in hawaii. that leaves them just five days to get a deal done to avoid steep tax hikes and spending cuts. senators on both sides of the aisle say both parties need to compromise to avoid a potential econom disaster. >> my one bit of advice to speaker boehner is this. you can't pass...
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>> with congress deadlocked over fiscal cliff negotiations, little else is getting done. one piece of legislation that awaits action is a new farm bill. if it's not passed, the price of milk, which is now $3.54 a gallon, could double. another bill languishing in congress is the emergency funding for states ravaged by superstorm sandy. the senate passed 60.4 billion in aid yesterday, but the house has yet to act. nine weeks after sandy hit, the need for help is immense. >> this is my house, this was my dream, you know, this was the american dream. >> reporter: when hurricanes or floods threaten pedro's house in the past, somehow it always survived. but as sandy belted sta ten island two months ago, correa knew right away this storm was different. >> i looked out the window and seen my car, it was moving. i said wow the win must be really ripping, and i looked closer and it was floating. >> reporter: he had already vaked his wife and two children. he and his brother were trying to save the house. sandy gave them no chance. >> out of the corner of my eye i see my neighbor's
>> with congress deadlocked over fiscal cliff negotiations, little else is getting done. one piece of legislation that awaits action is a new farm bill. if it's not passed, the price of milk, which is now $3.54 a gallon, could double. another bill languishing in congress is the emergency funding for states ravaged by superstorm sandy. the senate passed 60.4 billion in aid yesterday, but the house has yet to act. nine weeks after sandy hit, the need for help is immense. >> this is my...
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cliff deal would be done. however, we've just learned within the last 30 minutes that the second ranking republican in the house does not support the bill as it stands. and as our luke russert has been reporting to us, this would mean a whole other round of amendments perhaps to that bill. it also could mean that, therefore, it would go to the senate and then back to the house. this as we look at only 44 hours left in the 112th congress, and can they get it done or will it have to start all over again on thursday with the 113th congress? nbc's luke russert has been reporting for us and he was speaking with members early and heard from one member, luke, and i found this very interesting, you said that that member told you that was in the room for one of the meetings in the conference, 40 members spoke up, 37 spoke out against the plan, and 3 spoke for it. who are those three? who might they be? and what is the sentiment they have that they're so brave as it sounds to be one of the few? >> reporter: well, with h
cliff deal would be done. however, we've just learned within the last 30 minutes that the second ranking republican in the house does not support the bill as it stands. and as our luke russert has been reporting to us, this would mean a whole other round of amendments perhaps to that bill. it also could mean that, therefore, it would go to the senate and then back to the house. this as we look at only 44 hours left in the 112th congress, and can they get it done or will it have to start all...
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that work has to be done. but at least we will have avoided the cliff. mr. president, by a twist of fate, the occupant of the chair is my colleague and friend, the senator from connecticut, so like -- you've probably seen these numbers, but just to bring it home in one state, what will be the impact if we go over -- if we allow the country to go over the fiscal cliff. in connecticut, 1.4 million middle-class families will see their federal income taxes increase. almost a million and a half families. if the middle-class tax cuts are allowed to expire on january 1, a median-income connecticut family -- now, i know this -- the median in connecticut is higher than it is in most other states, but this number's true for any family making this amount of money, it makes an important point. a family of four earning $86,000 a year happens to be the immediatmedianfamily income in , but that family, which i think would be considered median just about everywhere, middle income just about everywhere, would see its federal income taxes rise by $2,200. that's a lot of money
that work has to be done. but at least we will have avoided the cliff. mr. president, by a twist of fate, the occupant of the chair is my colleague and friend, the senator from connecticut, so like -- you've probably seen these numbers, but just to bring it home in one state, what will be the impact if we go over -- if we allow the country to go over the fiscal cliff. in connecticut, 1.4 million middle-class families will see their federal income taxes increase. almost a million and a half...
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. >>> some washington lawmakers sound gloomy about the chances for a compromise deal on the fiscal cliff. >> nine days to get a deal done. house speaker boehner is in ohio. president obama in hawaii. >>> today we say aloha to an american hero, the late senator daniel inouye was remembered with full military honors in hawaii. the 88-year-old senator lost his arm in world war ii, he represented hawaii in washington for more than 50 years. president obama and the first lady attended today's service. the president has said inouye was his earliest political inspiration. >>> many gun shop owners say sales have been booming. thousands of north texans visited local gun shows and stores this weekend where the most powerful weapons are costing more than ever. a gun dealer told our affiliate that an assault style weapon ran around $900. this week anywhere from 1500 to $2500 many in just a few minutes my conversation with a gun shop owner, several former police officers and a school safety expert who says the current call for bringing guns into schools for safety is in his words, borderline insane.
. >>> some washington lawmakers sound gloomy about the chances for a compromise deal on the fiscal cliff. >> nine days to get a deal done. house speaker boehner is in ohio. president obama in hawaii. >>> today we say aloha to an american hero, the late senator daniel inouye was remembered with full military honors in hawaii. the 88-year-old senator lost his arm in world war ii, he represented hawaii in washington for more than 50 years. president obama and the first lady...
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part of the fiscal cliff is that congress has not done the doc- fix, which is indexed the reimbursement rates on medicare. a 27% reduction and general one if it is not reduced. that means any health care provider providing health care to patients on medicare will have to reduce their services. it will be fixed or attractively, if not before. host: that is the health care law, the charts -- "the new york times" talks about what happens immediately in terms of tax increases. they are talking about payments to medicare providers fallen by 27% if nothing is done in the fiscal cliff action going on. --, while i have you, i want your thoughts -- how much of that sentiment are you seeing out there? guest: a see a lot of it. as a grass-roots organization, we hear from people all across the country. we talk about reducing deficits and having a responsible budget for 20 years. this is actually, it will you go over the cliff and nothing changes, the largest single day of the deficit reduction in world history. it is $600 billion in deficit reduction trust by the turn in the calendar. over the long
part of the fiscal cliff is that congress has not done the doc- fix, which is indexed the reimbursement rates on medicare. a 27% reduction and general one if it is not reduced. that means any health care provider providing health care to patients on medicare will have to reduce their services. it will be fixed or attractively, if not before. host: that is the health care law, the charts -- "the new york times" talks about what happens immediately in terms of tax increases. they are...
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washington went over the fiscal cliff last night, triggering tax increases for virtually everybody. and despite some hopeful signs very early this morning, we are still in a free fall. it sure looked like a done deal. >> the yeahs are 89. the nays are 8. the bill as amended is passed. >> reporter: after 2:00 a.m. this morning, the senate approved a bill to prevent massive tax increases from going into affect today. the kind of overwhelming bipartisan vote almost never seen anymore. >> so, it took an imperfect solution to prevent our constituents from a very real financial pain. but in my view, it was worth the effort. >> reporter: finally, it seemed, washington was working. vice president joe biden and republican leader mitch mcconnell hashing out the deal late last night. >> really very good about how this vote is going to go. >> reporter: he had reason to smile last night, but today, that late night deal hit a wall of republican opposition in the house. hastily leaving a meeting of house republicans today, eric cantor, the second highest ranking republican in the house, announced
washington went over the fiscal cliff last night, triggering tax increases for virtually everybody. and despite some hopeful signs very early this morning, we are still in a free fall. it sure looked like a done deal. >> the yeahs are 89. the nays are 8. the bill as amended is passed. >> reporter: after 2:00 a.m. this morning, the senate approved a bill to prevent massive tax increases from going into affect today. the kind of overwhelming bipartisan vote almost never seen anymore....
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how do you feel about us not talking about the fiscal cliff anymore? >> woe, that is great. >> look. look. look how happy they are. >> that is the moment of the night. yes. >> that is what we thought. up next, one of the greatest stories of rock history will play out on our times square stage. >> that is right. we're 22 minutes from the big ball drop. all american new year's eve is become in three minutes, 2013 is that far away. >> hi, i'm in afghanistan and want to say hi to family in new jersey my wife and daughter. happy holidays i'll be home, soon. >> hi. i want say happy holidays to my family and friends in california and hi to my husband, bill, my kids, i love you. i miss you. see you guys soon. >>> i get i'm supposed to be the one wishing you a prosperus new year. more important to me is that it's an enriching year for you. you hug your family closer keep your friends tighter enjoy special moments more. do you that and you have all of that, i guarantee you, it's going to be a priceless new year. make it special. happy new year. >> yeah. we will.
how do you feel about us not talking about the fiscal cliff anymore? >> woe, that is great. >> look. look. look how happy they are. >> that is the moment of the night. yes. >> that is what we thought. up next, one of the greatest stories of rock history will play out on our times square stage. >> that is right. we're 22 minutes from the big ball drop. all american new year's eve is become in three minutes, 2013 is that far away. >> hi, i'm in afghanistan and...
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part of the fiscal cliff is that congress has not done the doc-fix, which is indexed the reimbursement rates on medicare. a 27% reduction and general one if it is not reduced. that means any health care provider providing health care to patients on medicare will have to reduce their services. it will be fixed or attractively, if not before. host: that is the health care law, the charts -- "the new york times" talks about what happens immediately in terms of tax increases. they are talking about payments to medicare providers fallen by 27% if nothing is done in the fiscal cliff action going on. --, while i have you, i want your thoughts -- how much of that sentiment are you seeing out there? guest: a see a lot of it. as a grass-roots organization, we hear from people all across the country. we talk about reducing deficits and having a responsible budget for 20 years. this is actually, it will you go over the cliff and nothing changes, the largest single day of the deficit reduction in world history. it is $600 billion in deficit reduction trust by the turn in the calendar. over the long
part of the fiscal cliff is that congress has not done the doc-fix, which is indexed the reimbursement rates on medicare. a 27% reduction and general one if it is not reduced. that means any health care provider providing health care to patients on medicare will have to reduce their services. it will be fixed or attractively, if not before. host: that is the health care law, the charts -- "the new york times" talks about what happens immediately in terms of tax increases. they are...
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>> well, i certainly think that the fiscal cliff, that language is a manufactured media narrative. that americans believe on january 1 we are going to be standing in line for bread. that's not going to happen this is all because congress kicked the can down the road. after the debt ceiling, which was a real crisis. and so by not completing resolving that issue in a substantive manner. we now are here at this fiscal slope as i like to call it, not cliff. >> laura: presumably, no matter what you say about what happened a year and a half ago, the president was part of that equation, right? he is the president of the united states. >> he is. but there are three branches of government. >> laura: accountability for that as well: that's for sure and the democrats didn't get around to actually passing a budget so we need to move on to that that guy, we are going to have the republicans have only so much leverage. in effect they don't have a lot of power here, do they? not really i think we learned that speaker boehner own party we can go back as you said to the debt ceiling debate. the onl
>> well, i certainly think that the fiscal cliff, that language is a manufactured media narrative. that americans believe on january 1 we are going to be standing in line for bread. that's not going to happen this is all because congress kicked the can down the road. after the debt ceiling, which was a real crisis. and so by not completing resolving that issue in a substantive manner. we now are here at this fiscal slope as i like to call it, not cliff. >> laura: presumably, no...
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>> the fiscal cliff puts it in jeopardy. many are afraid to invest in their business and hire new workers. make plans. >> no longer vetting a deal is done by new year's eve f. one comes by early january definitely a possibility. the economic impact should be minim minimal. if one comes later than that the damage to the economy is already done and you will see more talk of recession and analysts started cutting the earnings growth in the fourth quarter. >> one thing they don't like is uncertainty. apple released a new product and there will be another new product. >> now that you got them under the christmas tree. a man who has been right predicting apple products before a 5th generation ipad will look like the mini but some what thinner narrower and shorter than a regular ipad so not as small. apple is working on another generation of the ipad mini. it could be two new products. >> we could have just wasted our money at christmastime. >> sales were down from what was expected. >> yeah, the holiday shopping season a disappoin
>> the fiscal cliff puts it in jeopardy. many are afraid to invest in their business and hire new workers. make plans. >> no longer vetting a deal is done by new year's eve f. one comes by early january definitely a possibility. the economic impact should be minim minimal. if one comes later than that the damage to the economy is already done and you will see more talk of recession and analysts started cutting the earnings growth in the fourth quarter. >> one thing they don't...
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apparently they have reached a deal on the fiscal cliff. we anticipate vice president bide will be making comments. he just got done briefing senate democrats about the plan they've been negotiating. as soon as he comes out to speak, we're going to bring it -- >> first of all it's called the fiston cliff. and there's some sort of a car filled with -- look, i blame the tea party. i blame rand paul who by the way, you have him on your show way too much. >> we have -- >> he's a nut bag. go ahead send me your hate tweets, tea party. i know you want to hang me up like a columbian neck tie. i've heard them all. the tea party, they can be hurtful. >> rand paul he's -- >> really? >> yes. >> let's talk about the people turned down doing this show. >> we have to take a quick break and we'll have vice president biden's comments. >> rihanna coming up live in a moment. >> a look at pictures from around the country and around the world. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ yeah. okay either of you put together the earnings report yet? yes, me totally. what? why
apparently they have reached a deal on the fiscal cliff. we anticipate vice president bide will be making comments. he just got done briefing senate democrats about the plan they've been negotiating. as soon as he comes out to speak, we're going to bring it -- >> first of all it's called the fiston cliff. and there's some sort of a car filled with -- look, i blame the tea party. i blame rand paul who by the way, you have him on your show way too much. >> we have -- >> he's a...
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the good news, you're not likely to feel any fall off of the cliff if they get something done in the first few days of 2013. >>> and for some, the biggest objection to the fiscal cliff is the cuts to project defense spending. they warned it's bad news for national security. peter deucey explains who mean affected. >> reporter: last friday when president obama rolled out his new plan for steering us away from the fiscal cliff, there was a word he did not say and that word was sequester. the sequester would automatically cut more than $100 billion from the budget next year, half from domestic programs and half from defense programs and now as the deadline draws close, experts are looking at the cuts from a national security standpoint and warning one final time about heir safety of the service members. >> and that is going to affect the operational force deployed in terms of its ability to maintain its equipment to quiet re-- get repair parts and that is around the world, not just in afghanistan being reduced and it would impact on the training of the force and the preparedness to cond
the good news, you're not likely to feel any fall off of the cliff if they get something done in the first few days of 2013. >>> and for some, the biggest objection to the fiscal cliff is the cuts to project defense spending. they warned it's bad news for national security. peter deucey explains who mean affected. >> reporter: last friday when president obama rolled out his new plan for steering us away from the fiscal cliff, there was a word he did not say and that word was...
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how do you feel about us not talking about the fiscal cliff anymore? >> woe, that is great. >> look. look. look how happy they are. >> that is the moment of the night. yes. >> that is what we thought. up next, one of the greatest stories of rock history will play out on our times square stage. >> that is right. we're 22 minutes from the big ball drop. all american new year's eve is become in three minutes, 2013 is that far away. >> hi, i'm in afghanistan and want to say hi to family in new jersey my wife and daughter. happy holidays i'll be home, soon. >> hi. i want say happy holidays to my family and friends in california and hi to my husband, bill, my kids, i love you. i miss you. see you guys soon. [ male announcer ] how can power consumption in china, impact wool exports from new zealand, textile production in spain, and the use of medical technology in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 75% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. ro price. invest with
how do you feel about us not talking about the fiscal cliff anymore? >> woe, that is great. >> look. look. look how happy they are. >> that is the moment of the night. yes. >> that is what we thought. up next, one of the greatest stories of rock history will play out on our times square stage. >> that is right. we're 22 minutes from the big ball drop. all american new year's eve is become in three minutes, 2013 is that far away. >> hi, i'm in afghanistan and...
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>> yes, well, can we concede on the air that this whole fiscal cliff business was overhyped, that we knew that the world was going to look basically the same today and tomorrow and the next day, even if it didn't get done, as it did yesterday, but -- >> but do you think -- >> the debt ceiling's a different -- >> do you think that people who thought there could be a grand bargain were kidding us or kidding themselves? >> i think that they were kidding themselves down the stretch that we had any hope of getting anything big because there wasn't talk about anything big. frankly, the debt ceiling's not going to be that either. i know that the republicans are basically now saying, okay, we've got to start the clock again. i'm waiting for that to be in the lower corner of the msnbc screen, the clock until the debt ceiling expires, because that's real. that's when the full faith and credit of the u.s. is at stake. remember, we had 18 debt ceiling increases under reagan. this is only new by virtue of the current republican house forcing this issue on the whole country and bringing us to the
>> yes, well, can we concede on the air that this whole fiscal cliff business was overhyped, that we knew that the world was going to look basically the same today and tomorrow and the next day, even if it didn't get done, as it did yesterday, but -- >> but do you think -- >> the debt ceiling's a different -- >> do you think that people who thought there could be a grand bargain were kidding us or kidding themselves? >> i think that they were kidding themselves...
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cliff. there have been a few conversations going on at the staff level but really the expectation is that the hard work is going to get done when lawmakers return to washington after the christmas holiday, a little bit later on this week. that's when they're going to resume negotiations in earnest. of course there had been hopes that the president and house speaker john boehner were going to get a deal done. if you looked at the beginning of last week, they were getting close to a deal it appeared but that fell apart and talks fell apart. president obama said i will accept a smaller deal as long as it doesn't allow rates for those to go up for those making $250,000 or less. over the weekend you had a few senators, including senator joe lieberman saying they believe now more than ever we may be getting closer to actually going over the fiscal cliff. that is of course hanging over the heads of a lot of americans as they enter this holiday season and also looming over this vacation the presiden
cliff. there have been a few conversations going on at the staff level but really the expectation is that the hard work is going to get done when lawmakers return to washington after the christmas holiday, a little bit later on this week. that's when they're going to resume negotiations in earnest. of course there had been hopes that the president and house speaker john boehner were going to get a deal done. if you looked at the beginning of last week, they were getting close to a deal it...
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s a for the fiscal cliff talks, i'm told that there have been some fresh talks at the staff level but the hard work is not going to get done until lawmakers return to washington, that's expected to happen after the christmas holiday and at this point there's not a lot of time left and hopes for a grand bargain, president obama and house speaker boehner had been working on have all but evaporated right now. making sure that the steep tax hikes don't go in to effect. president obama on friday saying he would accept a deal as long as it does not allow taxes to go up on middle class americans, as long as it extends unemployment insurance and lays the groundwork for deficit reduction in the future. so there's sort of scaling back their expectations. house speaker boehner tried to get an alternative bill passed through the house last week. that failed. the focus shifts to the senate. reid and mcconnell will really be charged with trying to hammer out the fine details of that deal that can make it through the senate and through the house so that is the challenge moving forward. of course, pr
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today's only job is to come up with a deal that ainvestigators going over the fiscal cliff and anything other than that is absolute irresponsibility you congressional malpractice. >> any deal? in other words, say some sort of temporary fix or have to be that long-term overhaul? >> i don't think -- at this point, beggers can't be choosers. i don't think we are going to get a grand bargain. i don't think we are going to get a big deal with long-term stuff a lot of people object to that, they will call that kicking the can down the road, you know what martin, they are absolutely right. once again, we will kick the can down the road, but that's what happens, when you back yourself into a corner, we did this with the debt ceiling, we did this with the government shutdown, the way we do business now, we should get used to it, that's how things are done t is the 11th hour we need an 11th hour deal. 11th hour deals are never particularly good. everybody is going to give something up. i just hope they all prepare to give something up and get a deal. it is not going to be pretty. i will be here t
today's only job is to come up with a deal that ainvestigators going over the fiscal cliff and anything other than that is absolute irresponsibility you congressional malpractice. >> any deal? in other words, say some sort of temporary fix or have to be that long-term overhaul? >> i don't think -- at this point, beggers can't be choosers. i don't think we are going to get a grand bargain. i don't think we are going to get a big deal with long-term stuff a lot of people object to...
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washington did not get a fiscal cliff deal for christmas so that means president obama and lawmakers will need to kick it to overdrive to get something done by new year's. this is easier said than done. >> after weeks of bitterness, this is not a contest of the parties between who looks good and who doesn't. >> the only thing both sides agree on now is christmas may provide a cooling off period. >> ebb can drink eggnog. have christmas cookies. sing christmas carols. enjoy company of loved ones. >> hope springers eternal. >> when the christmas trees come down tomorrow from waikiki beach and elsewhere, the nation will be staring at the cliff that economists warned could spark a new recession. the fact is both sides are further apart than the holiday messages suggest. this puts the speaker in a box leading to collapse of plan "a" of $4 trillion debt deal and the slimmeded-down plan "b." >> in the course, i offered to compromise with republicans in congress. i met them halfway on taxes and more than halfway on spen spending. >> boehner is saying that the stumbling block will lead to taxe
washington did not get a fiscal cliff deal for christmas so that means president obama and lawmakers will need to kick it to overdrive to get something done by new year's. this is easier said than done. >> after weeks of bitterness, this is not a contest of the parties between who looks good and who doesn't. >> the only thing both sides agree on now is christmas may provide a cooling off period. >> ebb can drink eggnog. have christmas cookies. sing christmas carols. enjoy...
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of the year to avoid the fiscal cliff. congress is not expected to return to work until thursday. that's the same day president obama will return. he's spending christmas in hawaii with his family. that leaves them just five days to get a deal done to avoid steep tax hikes and big-time spending cuts. senators on both sides of the aisle say both parties need to compromise to avoid a potential economic disaster. >>> last-minute shoppers may not have been as merry this year as retailers had hoped. good morning. >> good morning to you. shoppers filled the malls and stores on the final weekend before christmas but many people may have not been filled with holiday spirit this year. research group npd says customer traffic was in line with last year but consumers are spending less. a combination of factors may be weighing on their minds including the tax impact of the fiscal cliff, aftereffects of sandy and shootings in connecticut. 'tis the season for giving but many charities aren't on the receiving end. the single biggest sour
of the year to avoid the fiscal cliff. congress is not expected to return to work until thursday. that's the same day president obama will return. he's spending christmas in hawaii with his family. that leaves them just five days to get a deal done to avoid steep tax hikes and big-time spending cuts. senators on both sides of the aisle say both parties need to compromise to avoid a potential economic disaster. >>> last-minute shoppers may not have been as merry this year as retailers...
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tax hikes aren't the only things at stake in the fiscal cliff negotiations. national security is also on the line with massive cuts at the defense department as part of the deal. leon pineda is prepping to send layo layoffs. >> if there is a deal done that doesn't set aside thense cuts because we already cut 489 billion out of the defense department i am disappointed as the president as commander-in-chief and disappointed with the republican party for letting this happen. >> sequestration was the penalty they imposed on itself last year when they failed to find $1.2 trillion of cuts they live with. now mhalf are directed at the pentagon but the dramatic across the board cuts can be offset by raising taxes on the rich. >> if we have raised revenue by the wealthy paying more that is sufficient to turn off the sectsec quest tore the automatic cuts. >> senator graham told me he thinks it is possible to find 600 billion cuts elsewhere to suspend for a decade but a bipartisan agreement probably can't be reached until february or march. peter doocy, fox news. >>> 17
tax hikes aren't the only things at stake in the fiscal cliff negotiations. national security is also on the line with massive cuts at the defense department as part of the deal. leon pineda is prepping to send layo layoffs. >> if there is a deal done that doesn't set aside thense cuts because we already cut 489 billion out of the defense department i am disappointed as the president as commander-in-chief and disappointed with the republican party for letting this happen. >>...
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people are really, really tied into the fiscal cliff and worries about washington. if you thought and you questioned it, you shouldn't because the minute that headline broke, look at that market. that's the best we've done. all day long basically since 10:00 a.m.. let's move onto the retailers, all right? i got that out of the way. i really wanted to see because even i began to wonder how tied in are the markets at this time during a holiday week and it showed you. here are the retailers. do-or-die in 2013. according to "the wall street journal" these four names are names to watch. of course we've seen jcpenney, change in management. best buy, will the chairman take over the whole thing? radioshack struggling in electronics. sears, another name right now is to the downside. these are names we will continue to watch and follow closely in 2013. back to you. ashley: very good indeed. thank you very much, nicole. harry reid tanking the markets earlier. but as you say they're talking again maybe in the house on sunday night. so it goes. my next guest has been the head of
people are really, really tied into the fiscal cliff and worries about washington. if you thought and you questioned it, you shouldn't because the minute that headline broke, look at that market. that's the best we've done. all day long basically since 10:00 a.m.. let's move onto the retailers, all right? i got that out of the way. i really wanted to see because even i began to wonder how tied in are the markets at this time during a holiday week and it showed you. here are the retailers....
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he feels that a deal on averting this fiscal cliff might get done. here's the president. >> i'm modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. money is going to get 100% of what they want. let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy and, in fact, the world economy aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jobs. i think you could qualify it. he said optimistic and came back later in that speech and said mod testily optimistic. >> juliet: doesn't that suggest that he is backtracking? >> clayton: don't know what's going to happen at the end of the day. in this meeting as dave was talking about back and forth the ball is in the senate's court right now mitch mcconnell said we will take it we don't want to go back to the house where that was a mess over in the house. we will take it. we will will try. this the president said you try this if you can't get anything done i want a straight up or down vote on those making over $250,000 a year and some of the unemployment benefits for 2 million individuals will stil
he feels that a deal on averting this fiscal cliff might get done. here's the president. >> i'm modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. money is going to get 100% of what they want. let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy and, in fact, the world economy aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jobs. i think you could qualify it. he said optimistic and came back later in that speech and said mod testily optimistic. >> juliet:...
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if nothing is done to avert the fiscal cliff. if you make $104,000, doing pretty well, you see your taxes go up $6200. if you make $400,000 a year, you see taxes go up over $9,000. that's overnight. the bush tax cuts sunset if we don't do anything to variety the fiscal cliff. this is something that the president and republicans agree on. they agree 98% of the americans shouldn't have taxes raised, but that 2% disagreement brings us to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> the ceo of starbucks says, hey, you know what? let's write on our coffee cups "come together." do you think anybody will pay attention to that in washdz? >> you know what? anything and everything helps. just merely spreading the message america is watching and waiting for congress to act to find a way to reason together, that's an important act, and everyone doing their part can do, i say good on him. we need to send this message to washington and make sure it isn't settled. we'll go deeper into this tonight at 7:00 as well. this is urnlggent. the clock is ticking, s
if nothing is done to avert the fiscal cliff. if you make $104,000, doing pretty well, you see your taxes go up $6200. if you make $400,000 a year, you see taxes go up over $9,000. that's overnight. the bush tax cuts sunset if we don't do anything to variety the fiscal cliff. this is something that the president and republicans agree on. they agree 98% of the americans shouldn't have taxes raised, but that 2% disagreement brings us to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> the ceo of starbucks...
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cliff. what did we do? electioneering. it was all about waiting until the election is over. when the elections become more important than governing the country, you get into the trouble we are in. it is not just wild spending. it is not just tax loopholes. it is about governing and fiscally managing things as you go along. it does not just have to be in the white house. it has got to be in congress as well. >> given the frustrations you have voice, if a grandchild said they want to go into politics, would you rejoice? >> i would be straightforward with them. when i decided i wanted to run for governor, somebody asked me if my skin was thick enough. i said, sure. i would encourage them to do it. there are bumps in the road and historical changes we have all seen and they will continue to happen. i predict longer-term there will be more independent-minded people who want to work together to get things accomplished. the bipartisan word will ultimately have more application. i was amused harry r
cliff. what did we do? electioneering. it was all about waiting until the election is over. when the elections become more important than governing the country, you get into the trouble we are in. it is not just wild spending. it is not just tax loopholes. it is about governing and fiscally managing things as you go along. it does not just have to be in the white house. it has got to be in congress as well. >> given the frustrations you have voice, if a grandchild said they want to go...
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cliff, would it be your advice to him to try to draft and bring some sort of legislation to the floor that was a bipartisan effort to discuss this? >> well, i mean, i think there's a bigger question to be answered, first, and, i mean, part of the dynamic -- whenever you have something like this occur, it's just so horrific, and it sort of shocks the country. what you unfortunately get sometimes is people pointing at each other to blame each other. it's the right blaming the left for the cultural dynamic, and it's the left blaming the right because of allowing guns to sort of be on the street and so have you this dynamic. ultimately the problem is how do we solve this problem, and i think the dynamic here is also we have to address a really serious problem. that is what do we do with people who are clearly mentally ill that we are aware of that are mentally ill, and you saw this happen with gabby giffords and in terms of columbine. obviously, this incident as well. virginia tech. what do you do when you recognize someone that's got a mental illness problem that could be a threat, and h
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mike tyson. >> president owe pa ma returns to washington today with five days to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> all eyes will be on the senate after house republicans said it's up to senate leadership to reach a deal. >>> starbucks is urging action asking baristas in his washington, d.c., cafes to write the word "come together" on the cups. >> a new york newspaper facing backlash after it published the names and addresses of local gun owners. >>> a busy shanghai shopping center a shark tank exploded. >>> the windy city of chicago will sport america's most expensive parking meters. >> what do you think about that? >> too much. >> all that -- >> smith catches, shoots puts it up, puts it in at the buzzer! j.r. smith with another game winner! >>> what is your favorite app? >> scrabble. >> sometimes i want to yank that out of your hands. >> and all that matters. >> an endangered thin backed whale watched up on the breezy point section of queens. >> on "cbs this morning." >> i know he's smiling but that medal hanging around his neck there's a 40% chance he'll hang himself with it. captioning fund
mike tyson. >> president owe pa ma returns to washington today with five days to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> all eyes will be on the senate after house republicans said it's up to senate leadership to reach a deal. >>> starbucks is urging action asking baristas in his washington, d.c., cafes to write the word "come together" on the cups. >> a new york newspaper facing backlash after it published the names and addresses of local gun owners. >>> a busy...
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cliff as he has done in persuading the american people that it's a good idea to tax the rich. senator corker has done some good work over the last several months in a variety of areas on the fiscal matters. but a proposal of his has subtracted my support in which he will subscribe today is a proposal to help make the medicare program solvent by reducing the growth of out of control spending by nearly a trillion dollars in exchange for the request for the president for a 1 trillion over increase in the debt limit. taking these provisions together over the next few weeks would provide certainty for the economy and would be the linchpin for the budget agreement that would get the economy going again. republicans have said and the two of us have said we are ready to do a whole variety of things to get a budget agreement, but we have to have someone address the medicare fiscal cliff for the seniors and soon thereafter young americans are going to be pushed over the cliff and they are going to look back at us and wonder why we didn't do anything. so i'm proud to join senator corker
cliff as he has done in persuading the american people that it's a good idea to tax the rich. senator corker has done some good work over the last several months in a variety of areas on the fiscal matters. but a proposal of his has subtracted my support in which he will subscribe today is a proposal to help make the medicare program solvent by reducing the growth of out of control spending by nearly a trillion dollars in exchange for the request for the president for a 1 trillion over increase...
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obama has done a much better job of positioning himself to take advantage of the fiscal cliff. he has painted republicans is only caring about their millionaire and billionaire friends. taking hostage the people of america. you have steny hoyer saying that republicans want to take children hostage and threatened to shoot them. this is vilifying republicans and it has been incredibly effective. in the short term, absolutely, the president is set to take advantage of this. tax increases, massive tax reductions to the military. republicans really stand and the notion is appalling about who wins, but the republicans win because the economy is going to go out yet another fiscal cliff. george w. bush is not the president. obama is the president, he is not putting forth proposals to work with republicans. he will have to take ownership of this. they need to come up with a cohesive message about real economic growth and shrinking the size of government. they don't have a message and that is going to be the big question about who wins and long-run. jon: if we go over the cliff, i mean,
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. >>> the tedline for the fiscal cliff is now just four days away. >>> the president has not laid out a specific plan to deal with this. congress could have done the same. i think the american people should be disgusted. >>> the commander of operation desert storm died from complications of pneumonia. >> the more you sweat in peace, the less you bleed in war. >>> the powerful storm moving cross the country is finally moving out. >> although it's not major system it's going to cause problems for tomorrow. >> less than a few days. the longshoremen and the shipping companies are at an impasse. >> this is in real-time. >> real-time. >> is that a ring tone? what ring tone was that? >> i have "dancing queen" is my general ring tone for most people and then my wife's is "super trooper." >>> i'm rebecca jarvis with jeff glor. charlie, gayle, and norah are off. >>> the fiscal cliff negotiations are down to the wire and this afternoon president obama meets with congressional leaders to try to come to terms on a compromised plan. major garrett is at the white house. major, good morning. >> good
. >>> the tedline for the fiscal cliff is now just four days away. >>> the president has not laid out a specific plan to deal with this. congress could have done the same. i think the american people should be disgusted. >>> the commander of operation desert storm died from complications of pneumonia. >> the more you sweat in peace, the less you bleed in war. >>> the powerful storm moving cross the country is finally moving out. >> although it's...
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part of the fiscal cliff is congress has not yet done what they call a doc fix. is to index the reimbursement rates for medicare. -- that is to index the reimbursement rates for medicare. any health care provider under medicare. have the amount they get reduced by more than 25%. i think he is right. this will be fixed retroactively. in the meantime, there are a lot of doctors wondering if they can afford to take additional patients. host: that is the chart in the (new york times" talking about things that will happen in the next few months in terms of tax increases. it does talk about the payments to medicare providers falling by 27% if nothing is done. josh, i want to get your thoughts on this statement. some of us are hoping for the fiscal cliff. how much of that sentiment are you seeing? guest: i see a lot of it. we hear from people all over the country. we have been talking about reducing deficits and heavy responsible budgets for 20 years. if you go over the cliff and nothing changes, the largest single day of deficit reduction in world history probably beca
part of the fiscal cliff is congress has not yet done what they call a doc fix. is to index the reimbursement rates for medicare. -- that is to index the reimbursement rates for medicare. any health care provider under medicare. have the amount they get reduced by more than 25%. i think he is right. this will be fixed retroactively. in the meantime, there are a lot of doctors wondering if they can afford to take additional patients. host: that is the chart in the (new york times" talking...
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just days left for lawmakers to come up with a way to avoid the fiscal cliff. who is feeling more pressure to get things done, the president, the democrats, congressional republicans?. patti ann: and funeral services are now set for two firefighters killed in an ambush. we're now learning more about why a man intentionally set a fire in order to trap the first-responders. >> the note was important for us to find because at least it provided us with the information leading toward the intent of the shooter essentially to burn undo the neighborhood in which he resided and to kill people. [ male announcer ] when was the last time something made your jaw drop? campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. gregg: all right, new developments on the christmas eve ambush that left two firefighters dead up in state new york. police say they have human remains in the burned out home of the gunman. david lee miller is live in our
just days left for lawmakers to come up with a way to avoid the fiscal cliff. who is feeling more pressure to get things done, the president, the democrats, congressional republicans?. patti ann: and funeral services are now set for two firefighters killed in an ambush. we're now learning more about why a man intentionally set a fire in order to trap the first-responders. >> the note was important for us to find because at least it provided us with the information leading toward the...
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cliff if we had not taken action. it means an awful lot in illinois. we have literally tens of thousands in my own state that face the same basic problem. these are people who have been out of work for a long time. some are in school. some are taking courses for retraining. all are trying to keep their family together, not lose their home while their unemployed. -- they are unemployed. this was the president's second highest priority and it was included in this package. review ask the congressional budget office where to spend $1 to help the economy, they will be clear that it is unemployment benefits. the dollar you spend on unemployment benefits go back into the economy. they are spending it on goods and services to get by, utility bills, rent, mortgage payments, food, clothing, the basics of life. each dollar has a multiplier effect. it is $1.60 ultimately into the economy. it is not only the humane and right thing to do for a struggling economy, but a good thing for boosting economic growth. one of the real disapp
cliff if we had not taken action. it means an awful lot in illinois. we have literally tens of thousands in my own state that face the same basic problem. these are people who have been out of work for a long time. some are in school. some are taking courses for retraining. all are trying to keep their family together, not lose their home while their unemployed. -- they are unemployed. this was the president's second highest priority and it was included in this package. review ask the...
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. >> the bill as amended is pass zbld the senate overwhelmingly passed a bill to avert the fiscal cliff. >> this temporary agreement keeps income tax rates steady for most americans, limiting tax hikes to households making more than $450,000. >> i think we can say we've done some good for the country. >> president obama encouraged the house to pass it right away. >> if there's even one second left before you have to do what you're supposed to do, they will use that last second. >>> it has not been a great start to the new year for hillary clinton. >> she's undergoing treatment for a blood clot in the head between the brain and the skull. >> she didn't have a stroke. she didn't have a seizure. the prognosis is excellent. >>> an estimated 1 million people in times square. >> revelers welcomed in the new year with celebrations around the world. around 100,000 people in hong kong. fireworks display over the skies of london. >> all that. >> i'm single, so let's get it on. >> there are so many people making out it's sloppy. >> who to you think would win in a fistfight. you or -- >> and all th
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cliff, to have a sunset when it comes to our fiscal situation is that really what's going on here? lawmakers are on vacation, so will anything get done in time? >>> lots of people on vacation, dana. a winter storm may be headed your way. for all of the people traveling, 93 million americans on trains, planes, and automobiles. what it means for your holiday travel plans. good morning, welcome to "starting point." chilly in new york city. 7:00 in the morning. i'm alina cho in new york. >> and i'm dana bash in washington. monday, december 24th. christmas eve. "starting point" begins right now. >> and our "starting point," a u.s. contractor in kabul gunned down and killed this morning by a woman wearing an afghan police uniform. it happened inside kabul's police headquarters. the latest in a string of suspected green on blue attacks that are hitting morale and eroding trust in allies there. our pentagon correspond respondent barbara starr up early for us working her sources. joins us live from washington with more. >> good morning, alina. in the last few minutes, our nato sources are c
cliff, to have a sunset when it comes to our fiscal situation is that really what's going on here? lawmakers are on vacation, so will anything get done in time? >>> lots of people on vacation, dana. a winter storm may be headed your way. for all of the people traveling, 93 million americans on trains, planes, and automobiles. what it means for your holiday travel plans. good morning, welcome to "starting point." chilly in new york city. 7:00 in the morning. i'm alina cho in...
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we'll talk about what is coming up on the fiscal cliff. have you got your holiday shopping done yet? are you done? >> gretchen: i am waiting for three things to come in the mail that they might not arrive. >> i an alert said winter weather causing shipping delays. >> if you are worried about your packages in christmas eve, you delayed yourself. >> gretchen: blame the weather guy. l>> i ordered it on friday. >> gretchen: merry christmas . still no deal in sight just more of the same way blame game . e week before the taxes are going to sky rocket. steve is live in washington. >> good morning, gretchen and everybody. washington is shut down for the christmas holiday . when everybody does come back to town, the ball will be in the democrat's court because speaker boehner was unable to bring his on board. for the plan b. >> onous is on senator reid and the president to come up with a solution and present it to the house and get back to the bargaining table. >> now the president has insisted on a tax hike for the healthy but wants that at $250,
we'll talk about what is coming up on the fiscal cliff. have you got your holiday shopping done yet? are you done? >> gretchen: i am waiting for three things to come in the mail that they might not arrive. >> i an alert said winter weather causing shipping delays. >> if you are worried about your packages in christmas eve, you delayed yourself. >> gretchen: blame the weather guy. l>> i ordered it on friday. >> gretchen: merry christmas . still no deal in...